I just wanted to write a post about a few things in particular. These things have been proven in my eyes with a particular girl that I have been dating from Daygame.
1. As written by Chris Odom in the book ‘Revelations’. He says on a date you want to be outcome independent and just see were things go naturally.
I think this inner game mindset is very, very powerful because it allows the girl to feel comfortable with you and, try and make a connection.
The Mystery Method spoke about 7 hours being the average but to be fair its more like 14 on average.
Contrary to public opinion you can trade your way out of the friendzone if you get put in there. I have done this before.
I noticed that there has always been this big debate about direct vs indirect. I think most guys are focused on the smaller picture.
The bigger picture is more important. Actually its fundamental to female biology. That is a women needs to feel comfortable with you to sleep with you.
Most guys think with their dick and, don’t see it from her point of view or natures point of view.
If guys just adhered to minimum 2+ dates before they started escalating then I think his results would go up.
This whole idea about ‘what do I say’ is also missing the point. If a girl is not interested in sleeping with you then she will NOT shit test you.
Every girl has her timeline when it comes to feeling comfortable with you.
Think of the girl. Put the girl first. Yes thats right put her front and centre first before yourself. She will think ‘fuck this guy is not such a wierd cunt after all’. She’ll probably even sleep with you at some point.
Whether it takes 2 dates or 10. Does it matter. As long as she’s still hanging around with you. She thinks your a cool guy.
Cool guys get laid. Wankers don’t.
Just my thoughts.
Nick Krauser’s ‘Daygame Infinite’. Great book. Get it.
This is my third date with a 26 Indonesian girl. She definitely fits the category of YHT.
Did a side stop on her in the china town food court mall area.
It was towards the end of the day on Saturday 5:30 ish.
She lit up like a christmas tree to my Daygame skill set.
First date did the usual stuff. No proximity. No hand hold.
Date two touched her ankle sock as we sat in the library. She recoiled slightly.
Date three went to the beach and fed the seagulls. Proximity was on. Hand hold was on. From there she allowed me to kino her over the course of the day and night. Almost got the kiss. Eyes kept looking away after eye contact. Not at my lips.
Did all the verbal escalation stuff. She responded well to it on date 3.
Big lesson learnt from this girl;
“The game is played in comfort” The Mystery Method.
Being sociable is more important then being sexual. Being sexual comes second.
Always hold the frame. Avoid leaning in at all times. She will test. But let her close the proximity. She will do this slowly over time and after some sufficient testing.
Each girl has their own level of comfort time before they start to trust you.
The average being 2 to 3 dates if not an SDL.
Maybe upto 4 to 5 for some other types of girls.
I hope my experience helps you.
Biggest lesson to take away. Keep jumping in front of those girls with ‘The London Front Stop’.
I’ve been on a few dates now and I think I can spot a timewaster.
Try this next time your on a date. Go quiet. Say nothing. Silence will give you the answer.
She will do one of three things;
1. She will continue to talk alot like a motor mouth and not allow you to fill the gaps. When she runs out of things to say she will then vacuum you. This is her trying to qualify you. It’s a subtle frame battle. =
Shes a timewaster.
2. She asks you a question to fill the silence. This means she is a genuine girl who is genuinely attracted to you. She will usually have a two way conversation with you. =
Maybe or Yes girl
3. She does not invest. She allows the silence to continue. Shes ok with the silence dragging on for a long time. =
No girl
This type of girl has either got a boyfriend and is not willing to upgrade OR she is not attracted to you. She just wants free attention from a push over beta.
Now with that knowledge in mind, go forth and multiply 😁
Had a stunning girl on an idate and, k closed her.
I just wanted to write about the things I learnt from the idate.
What I learnt from nature is the concept of pair bonding. E.g when you see a bird in your backyard for the first time they tend to run away. As time goes on and, you continue to see the same bird I noticed that they start to come closer.
They even start to hang out with you when your around.
It’s because they are pair bonding with you and thus trust you.
You see this with pigs and sheep on farms. If they are together long enough they become a herd. Best mates
IthinkMen and Women are the same. So what I do is walk the girl from the pickup location to the coffee shop. From the coffee shop to the park. From the park to the alcohol venue etc.
As you do this I noticed the girl starts to accept you more. She is pair bonding with you from walking with you. You lead and she follows. Just like walking a dog. To clarify girls are not dogs by the way. You get my point.
Then you can start the hands, isolation, k close process.
Just be aware not to go past the point of no return. Refer to The Mystery Method book on this point.
It’s been over a year now and, I suppose I’m ok with writing up my sordid liaisons with the women I met from Daygame.
I’ll start with the very first women I ended up sleeping with.
This post will be in 2 parts. First part will be the field report. Second part will be about the lay.
Field report:
It was around a year ago on a Thursday. It was a wintry cold evening at my local supermarket. Just after 7:30pm I noticed the crowds would disperse and, go home for dinner, leaving only the single people about to do their shopping.
I thought I’d do some twighlight game.
I was walking past the isles looking for a girl to chat up. There weren’t many women at this time to choose from. There were alot of construction worker type guys hanging out in groups and, pairs doing their shopping. I felt the spotlight effect from these guys and, my Approach Anxiety went up a gear.
I was thinking to myself how shit is this. It’s cold, late, not many women around. Not many women that are worthy enough for a pickup attempt. They all were pretty ordinary looking. Then I noticed this Milf in an isle. My DNA tug was triggered.
She was wearing long black fuck me boots. She had curly fair hair and, was lanky looking. I just remember checking out her ass. She had this nice love heart shaped ass wrapped in tight black work pants.
She was just standing there bent over looking at something. There was only one problem. There were 2 burly looking blokes in her isle doing their shopping. The AA went up a gear.
I decided to start my breathing technique to combat my AA. I did a full tour of the supermarket before coming back around again.
5 minutes later I passed her isle. She was still standing there. Still on her own. Best of all the 2 guys that were in her isle had vanished. It was like a sign from the Daygame gods to approach.
I had a hunch that she was ovulating because she was just meandering there on the spot with no where to go.
So I went in. Walked straight upto her and, opened.
She was still bent over to the the side of me looking at coffee. I was thinking god that ass is so nice. I just want to grab it and, slap it.
She came up and was still gorking at the coffee like she hadn’t noticed that I was right there. I think she might have been lost in her own world.
I then opened. I said “did you find the right coffee”. She faced me, smiled and, gave me 2+ secs of eye contact. She answered and, proceeded to tell me how many there were to choose from. She said it with a slight giggle underneath her voice and, a slight cheeky smile.
I knew I had an attracted girl on my hands. She looked in her late 40’s, kept her figure in great shape and, had a descent looking face.
I introduced myself with the floppy hand test. She passed. She let me hold her floppy hand for around 5 secs before politely sliding away.
I then went into my 1, 2, 3 routine.
1. Mild compliment
2. Say something quirky about what you see and, twist it
3. Listen for the topic and, riff off it. Combine this with the tease.
I think I said this “You look very, very nice. What I noticed about you is that you remind me of a ginger cat dressed in black. Am I right?”
She said that she was looking to stack up on heaps of coffee for a country rock concert she was attending on the weekend.
So I said “When I think of a ginger cat all in black, looking for coffee….I think that’s a bit wierd….a bit odd….cause I never knew ginger cats can drink coffee.”
She said with a big smile and, slight laugh, “I don’t know what coffee to buy thou”.
I said “Well I think it’s your hair and, black boots”. I touched her hair when I said it. She loved it.
I then said “ginger cats can’t drink coffee cause they have tiny paws and, cant hold the coffee cup.”
She was smiling and, laughing. She then proceeded to tell me why she thought she was into coffee and, why she had fair ginger hair. Bingo, I had investment.
I then went into the standard comfort stuff. 3 things about me. 3 things about her. I then looked into her eyes and, said “you have nice eyes…they sparkle abit”. She cooed and, smiled again”.
I was still nervous at this point so I decided to bail. I closed her out and, got her number.
I said “I gotta go, looks like you gotta go….but another time….I’d like to invite you out for a coffee.”
When I got home from that set, I waited a couple of hours then texted her at around 10pm. She replied about 20 minutes later with investment.
I thought awesome. Things were looking good.
Texts were exchanged through out the week. We went back and forth until we settled on a date for Friday night coffee. It was pretty straight forward the texting. I thought she could be a yes girl.
The other thing that was bizaar was that she said yes to coffee at night. I thought definitely a yes girl.
I met her at this Bar restaurant type venue at around 9pm.
I said let’s get a wine instead as it was a bit late for coffee. She agreed. Great sign from the Daygame gods.
End of field report. Next post will be about this date, the second date and, the lay.
Had been sarging all day on Saturday and, it was the last set of the day.
Weather is a little bit wintery at the moment. This asian girl walks past with the most revealing gym knicker tights, upto her arse.
Revealing her entire fit legs upto her butt. Nice firm arse as well. Not to big, not to small, nice and, bunn like, like a burger bunn.
Worked up the courage to do a cold approach, london front stop on her.
She hooked immediately off the stop. How do I know?
She eye sparkled, smiled, was giggly and, the most important crucial tell tale sign!!….was she just stood there. She seemed like she had no place to be at in an immediate hurry. She just hung around and, stood there as I opened her.
She invested in the set like she had no where to go. She talked like she was really easy going and, open. Like she had the time and, day to have a yarn with you in the middle of a busy city centre street. That was out of place for the context we were in.
She reminded me of someone who is from the country. People from the country usually have the same characteristics.
That is they;
1. Chat with you about anything.
2. They are more open to having a yarn about nothing.
3. They smile alot and, are generally pretty friendly compared to city folk.
4. They usually will make time for you and, generally aren’t in a rush like city slickers are.
She had all these signs and, asked me a question on the open. So I knew I’d hooked early.
I did some comfort talk in the set then closed her for an Idate. She complied very easily.
Took her for hot chocolate late at around 5pm.
Bounced her for a walk in the park.
Here is the BIG thing; she was rubbing up against me as we walked side by side. Green light for she was closing the proximity on me.
I just held her hand, like she was my girlfriend at this point. She reciprocated easily.
Walk her through the park and, noticed she kept looking at my eyes.
Stopped, turned her to face me, held both her hands, looked into her eyes, said nothing. Waited for her to look down at my lips. It took her 10 seconds, then I went in for the kiss.
We sucked face on and, off through out the walk about 3 to 4 times.
It was on the 4th make out that my hands started to wonder down to her lovely arse. That’s when the LMR came up.
She said in a very lovely way, “I’m not sure if I can do this, I apologize”.
I used an anti LMR line from Tom Torero. “No no it’s me, I’m moving way to fast….this is way to fast….I don’t normally do this….move this fast.”
I rolled off, walked her to the city centre, number closed her and, got a nice kiss tongue and, all good bye. 🙂
Was it an SNL, SDL?
Leave a comment and, let me know.
Her shorts were literally that short. She had short hair.
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