About on a date, when a girl reframes you.
About my first date and, what I learnt.
It’s been over a year now and, I suppose I’m ok with writing up my sordid liaisons with the women I met from Daygame.
I’ll start with the very first women I ended up sleeping with.
This post will be in 2 parts. First part will be the field report. Second part will be about the lay.
It was around a year ago on a Thursday. It was a wintry cold evening at my local supermarket. Just after 7:30pm I noticed the crowds would disperse and, go home for dinner, leaving only the single people about to do their shopping.
I thought I’d do some twighlight game.
I was walking past the isles looking for a girl to chat up. There weren’t many women at this time to choose from. There were alot of construction worker type guys hanging out in groups and, pairs doing their shopping. I felt the spotlight effect from these guys and, my Approach Anxiety went up a gear.
I was thinking to myself how shit is this. It’s cold, late, not many women around. Not many women that are worthy enough for a pickup attempt. They all were pretty ordinary looking. Then I noticed this Milf in an isle. My DNA tug was triggered.
She was wearing long black fuck me boots. She had curly fair hair and, was lanky looking. I just remember checking out her ass. She had this nice love heart shaped ass wrapped in tight black work pants.
She was just standing there bent over looking at something. There was only one problem. There were 2 burly looking blokes in her isle doing their shopping. The AA went up a gear.
I decided to start my breathing technique to combat my AA. I did a full tour of the supermarket before coming back around again.
5 minutes later I passed her isle. She was still standing there. Still on her own. Best of all the 2 guys that were in her isle had vanished. It was like a sign from the Daygame gods to approach.
I had a hunch that she was ovulating because she was just meandering there on the spot with no where to go.
So I went in. Walked straight upto her and, opened.
She was still bent over to the the side of me looking at coffee. I was thinking god that ass is so nice. I just want to grab it and, slap it.
She came up and was still gorking at the coffee like she hadn’t noticed that I was right there. I think she might have been lost in her own world.
I then opened. I said “did you find the right coffee”. She faced me, smiled and, gave me 2+ secs of eye contact. She answered and, proceeded to tell me how many there were to choose from. She said it with a slight giggle underneath her voice and, a slight cheeky smile.
I knew I had an attracted girl on my hands. She looked in her late 40’s, kept her figure in great shape and, had a descent looking face.
I introduced myself with the floppy hand test. She passed. She let me hold her floppy hand for around 5 secs before politely sliding away.
I then went into my 1, 2, 3 routine.
1. Mild compliment
2. Say something quirky about what you see and, twist it
3. Listen for the topic and, riff off it. Combine this with the tease.
I think I said this “You look very, very nice. What I noticed about you is that you remind me of a ginger cat dressed in black. Am I right?”
She said that she was looking to stack up on heaps of coffee for a country rock concert she was attending on the weekend.
So I said “When I think of a ginger cat all in black, looking for coffee….I think that’s a bit wierd….a bit odd….cause I never knew ginger cats can drink coffee.”
She said with a big smile and, slight laugh, “I don’t know what coffee to buy thou”.
I said “Well I think it’s your hair and, black boots”. I touched her hair when I said it. She loved it.
I then said “ginger cats can’t drink coffee cause they have tiny paws and, cant hold the coffee cup.”
She was smiling and, laughing. She then proceeded to tell me why she thought she was into coffee and, why she had fair ginger hair. Bingo, I had investment.
I then went into the standard comfort stuff. 3 things about me. 3 things about her. I then looked into her eyes and, said “you have nice eyes…they sparkle abit”. She cooed and, smiled again”.
I was still nervous at this point so I decided to bail. I closed her out and, got her number.
I said “I gotta go, looks like you gotta go….but another time….I’d like to invite you out for a coffee.”
When I got home from that set, I waited a couple of hours then texted her at around 10pm. She replied about 20 minutes later with investment.
I thought awesome. Things were looking good.
Texts were exchanged through out the week. We went back and forth until we settled on a date for Friday night coffee. It was pretty straight forward the texting. I thought she could be a yes girl.
The other thing that was bizaar was that she said yes to coffee at night. I thought definitely a yes girl.
I met her at this Bar restaurant type venue at around 9pm.
I said let’s get a wine instead as it was a bit late for coffee. She agreed. Great sign from the Daygame gods.
End of field report. Next post will be about this date, the second date and, the lay.
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Helps me bring you infield results.
I just wanted to write a post about No girls.
Daygame is hard. It’s very hard. There’s a section at the end of ‘Balls Deep’ author Nick Krauser about most girls being a No.
It’s an interesting view on biology and, why most girls you’ll meet will be a No.
I won’t go into the biological take on why most girls are no. It’s highly recommended that you read Nick Krauser’s ‘Balls Deep’ memoir. In particular the part at the end of the book about why most girls are no.
What I will talk about in this blog post is that there is a sliding scale of No to Yes. A girl could fit anywhere on that scale.
Let’s say a 1 is an extreme Yes girl and a 10 is an extreme No girl. Let’s say a 5 is in the middle.
According to Krauser’s biological take on the subject matter, most girls will be somewhat in the middle. Some might be a 6 or a 7 towards the No side.
Some might be a 3 or 4 on the Yes side. Meaning more likely to say Yes with enough comfort time.
5 is in the middle leaning toward a No.
So according to Krauser, most girls would be around the 4 to 8 levels of No. Also known as Maybe girls.
His saying the reason for this is that biologically women will produce a limited number of eggs throughout their life time.
A man will produce an unlimited number of sperm over his life spand.
Nature has programmed women to protect their limited supply of eggs, while programming the guy to propagate and, scatter his sperm with many women as possible over his life spand.
This allows the offspring to be as robust as can be so the next generation is strong enough to survive and, replicate the species.
So when a girl ends up being a No. You gotta work out on what scale is she a no.
You then play the percentages accordingly with comfort time based on each individual girl.
That’s why Same day lays are rare because only a small no. of girls are in the extreme Yes side of the scale.
That’s why the Game is played in the Maybe category.
Some girls are Maybe. Most girls are No.
That’s why you got to do the numbers. 30 – 50 sets a week.
Because most girls are No.
Buy me a coffee
Helps me bring you infield results.
Tomorrow I have a Date 1 lined up with an American HB8.
Street stop: Hand was floppy, proximity was allowed and, eyes were on.
She also invested.
Over the texting, she invested alot and, asked me out for a date. Don’t know if the polarity is fucked or not. Will find out on the date as I’m gonna run seduction only.
Why you ask seduction only….!!!
Why not deep connection and, comfort like what’s written in The Mystery Method.
Mystery’s 7 hour rule on comfort covers about 2 dates, maybe 3.
Like cricket, your bowling and, batting according to the weather conditions. In particular the pitch.
Let me give the analogy first and, then the Daygame theory.
In cricket if the pitch is wet then the ball will bounce of the surface in all soughts of wild directions. Hence making it hard for the batsman to score runs and, stay in.
This makes it easier for the bowler to get the batsman out and, stop runs from being scored.
Of course if the opposite weather conditions are true then the dry pitch suits the batsman and, not the bowler.
In Daygame there’s this concept of R/K theory. K meaning the girl doesn’t root outside a monogamous relationship.
R meaning she does.
I think this girl is a yes girl. I think she’s R.
Like Tom Torero says in his book Street Hustle “You got to burn your boats mission”.
He means fearless, relentless escalation. As the PUA Sixty Years of Challenge wrote.
I’ll let you know how I go. That is whether I crash and, burn or, I hit a home run?!
Hi there fellow daygamer.
So far 300 sets in and, what I have learnt?
When you manage to get phone number’s this is what happens:
Half ghost you,
The other half of that half are Time waster’s.
Leave’s you with only a fraction left over that are direct with you and, don’t play games.
Alan Roger Currie has a book on this subject matter about Time Waster’s. His book is called ‘No Free Attention: How Women use The Possibility of Sex to Manipulate Naive and, Lustful Men’.
Red Quest has a blog post on this subject as well about how alot of daygamer’s experience this phenomenon alot on dates especially with girls in their early 20’s. Seem’s to be most common.
So how does a daygamer screen out Time Waster’s?
What I have noticed is that when you do teasing and, challenging you end up with alot of Time Waster’s.
Here’s the trick, if you do sexual tension at the beginning of the set, I found you screen out alot of Time Waster’s and, end up with a smaller amount of phone number’s but you also end up with more Instant Dates which end with solid numbers.
According to Alan Roger Currie’s book you have 2 types of Time Waster’s.
One is a normal type and, the other is a cock teaser.
I found that if you do sexual tension at the beginning of the set (see Steve Jabba for how to do sexual tension) you cull out the normal type of Time Waster.
But you are still left with the cock teaser Time Waster.
And the direct girls who are up for it, sex that is.
Lesson’s learnt after 300 sets in field?
1. Do Maradona move to test for sexual tension as soon as possible right at the beginning of set.
2. If you get a handshake do sexual tension (again check out Steve Jabba to learn how to do sexual tension).
3. Then go into your teasing routine as normal and, rapport, qualification etc.
4. Over text messaging vacuum for 24 to 48 hours before sending the 2nd text, then call her.
5. Get her on the phone, rack up comfort time and, seduction both at the same time over the phone. (If you wanna know how to do seduction over the phone just send me an email: email@example.com
Now that your armed with more knowledge to your arsenal….go forth and, multiply?!
I mean conquer.
Hi there fellow daygamer.
I made another discovery on the weekend’s sarge.
About to drop another golden nugget.
Are you ready?!
How to Instant Date close;
Step 1, Have a 7 to 10 minute interaction with the Hot Babe.
To do this, she needs to be talking while you shutup and, listen.
Parroting and, vacuuming helps with this. That is you repeat her last words back to her and, listen.
Once you have the set upto around 7 minutes then you close for a coffee around the corner.
I found if the set duration is 5 minutes, it’s not enough but if it’s around 7 to 10 minutes then she will accept your invite for a coffee then and, there on the spot.
Stay thirsty my friend’s
Was sarging with a mate and, he number closed for the first time. Was good to see. He was on a mental high after that and, started opening every gorgeous young thing we came across.
I was getting a bit jealous but that’s a good thing.
I was struggling with alot of married women. I was sarging during office hours so I was coming across more of them. Lot’s of it’s On sets thou, very good.
Toward’s the end of the day near the end of a 4 hour sarge, I got an IOI green light from a young stunner from across the street.
Like a lion I went after her and did a front stop. She loved it. Had a 7 minute kooing giggling and, flirtatious set. Number closed her and, was on my way.
That set blew my mind and, I was on a mental high after that. Made the entire days work worthwhile.
Sarged on Saturday and, discovered a little glitch in the game:
Was doing more front stops (Nick Krauser was right). Front stops scare the girl a little and, get her submitting from the start. Very powerful. Was doing more of them and, with the 3 things you need (eye contact, stop signal with hand gesture and, most important **Conviction**).
2nd discovery was teasing and, challenging. The revelation that dawned on me was that you gotta keep hitting her with a wide array of teases not just one. The objective should be to get the girl rooted to the ground with her feet like a tree so she doesn’t keep moving. You achieve this through constant bombardment of teases and, challenges.
Try to keep this up for as long as possible or until she asks a question.
The trick is in the spontaneity of the teasing.
The moment you sense she is about to start moving her feet, close her out with the Tom Torero close.
First she will say, “I gotta get going I’m meeting a friend”. Then her feet will shift slightly away from you. You will be able to feel this shift when the set is near it’s end.
Then close “You’ve gotta go, I’ve gotta go….but another time, I’d like to invite you out for a cup of coffee……what do you say?”
If she does not use the word ‘no’ then anything else is a signal to lead and, take her number.
“I’ll get your number”. Hand her the phone.
A couple of the girls initiated the feeler text straight away after closing a couple of hours later.
Never had that happen before.
I went on a date the other night. I did the comfort thing etc but, I did make one fundamental mistake.
I surrendered the frame.
Lesson learnt from date….women are always testing your frame. The reason is that women love strength in a guy.
The moment you fail her test and, surrender the frame, you then enter hers automatically.
Her pussy stops tingling for you and, she loses interest in you.
Note to self: When ever tee ing up logistics for the date, always set the date, time and, venue.
If she flakes to test your frame then next her.