If you find it hard reaching hook point then forget technique.
Work on your value first. Most of your value on the street comes down to not being over weight.
Excerpt from Steve Jabba’s book ‘Primal Seduction’ below;
Hook Point
Tag: daygame
Comfort time is King
I just wanted to write a post about a few things in particular. These things have been proven in my eyes with a particular girl that I have been dating from Daygame.
1. As written by Chris Odom in the book ‘Revelations’. He says on a date you want to be outcome independent and just see were things go naturally.
I think this inner game mindset is very, very powerful because it allows the girl to feel comfortable with you and, try and make a connection.
The Mystery Method spoke about 7 hours being the average but to be fair its more like 14 on average.
Contrary to public opinion you can trade your way out of the friendzone if you get put in there. I have done this before.
I noticed that there has always been this big debate about direct vs indirect. I think most guys are focused on the smaller picture.
The bigger picture is more important. Actually its fundamental to female biology. That is a women needs to feel comfortable with you to sleep with you.
Most guys think with their dick and, don’t see it from her point of view or natures point of view.
If guys just adhered to minimum 2+ dates before they started escalating then I think his results would go up.
This whole idea about ‘what do I say’ is also missing the point. If a girl is not interested in sleeping with you then she will NOT shit test you.
Every girl has her timeline when it comes to feeling comfortable with you.
Think of the girl. Put the girl first. Yes thats right put her front and centre first before yourself. She will think ‘fuck this guy is not such a wierd cunt after all’. She’ll probably even sleep with you at some point.
Whether it takes 2 dates or 10. Does it matter. As long as she’s still hanging around with you. She thinks your a cool guy.
Cool guys get laid. Wankers don’t.
Just my thoughts.
2 things about Daygame
Had a discussion with my wing today as we did some sets. Forgot my train of thought. Then messaged him later about it.
Comfort
This post is about comfort time and the love bubble.
On the back end dating I think women are attracted to romance or aka the love bubble. Most guys cant give that. Most guys can only give cock or provider stuff.
I notice girls crave the movie moment on a date. Bounce lead bounce lead. Test proximity. Kiss.
They are all movie moments.
The other thing I noticed on the back end is being as socially normal as possible.
Women love socially normal guys. The more you do social stuff with her and the less you try sexual stuff with her it builds the anticipation of sex occuring at some point in the future.
Women love this feeling.
You dont seek an outcome and her love juices bubble while you reframe from sexual overtones. Hence the anticipation going up in her mind.
Women are natural at the feeling of sex. Its automatic. So I advocate doing less. Matter of fact do nothing. Let her heat up in her love juices. She’s automatically doing it for you.
All you have to do is walk around with her and do shit. Wait for the proxy close and hold her hand.
No proximity. No hand hold.
Means no physicality from her. Its never gonna happen. Sex that is. She doesnt see you as sexually attractive. Let her go. Next!!!
But
if she allows proximity then hand hold will occur automatically. Then kiss close. Your on your way 😉
The trick is to walk her around like a puppy dog.
Rack up time in comfort.
The average being 7 hours according to The Mystery Method.
Daygame in Melbourne
How to spot a Time waster
I’ve been on a few dates now and I think I can spot a timewaster.
Try this next time your on a date. Go quiet. Say nothing. Silence will give you the answer.
She will do one of three things;
1. She will continue to talk alot like a motor mouth and not allow you to fill the gaps. When she runs out of things to say she will then vacuum you. This is her trying to qualify you. It’s a subtle frame battle. =
Shes a timewaster.
2. She asks you a question to fill the silence. This means she is a genuine girl who is genuinely attracted to you. She will usually have a two way conversation with you. =
Maybe or Yes girl
3. She does not invest. She allows the silence to continue. Shes ok with the silence dragging on for a long time. =
No girl
This type of girl has either got a boyfriend and is not willing to upgrade OR she is not attracted to you. She just wants free attention from a push over beta.
Now with that knowledge in mind, go forth and multiply 😁
No hoper set yesterday!
Secret Tells
I’ve been doing Pickup Artistry through Daygame for about 3 years now. I have learnt and internalised the London Daygame Model.
Here’s what I have learnt from chatting up women during the day.
Girls communicate in a secret language cloaked in logic and, rationale but it’s far from it.
Their language is abit like Morse code. To use the e.g each series of taps represents a coded message. A message that I as a guy have to figure out. Maybe like a riddle.
Communicating with women is like learning a new language.
It’s taken me 3 years to learn it.
The trick to learning this new secretive language is to learn and do the London Daygame Model over and over again. At least 1000 sets it takes before shit starts dawning on you.
Here are some e.g’s of some secret tells ;
● Girls eyes sparkle and crackle in set
● She allows the space to be encroached
● She allows incidental light touching
● She asks you a question
● She giggles and, laughs during the set
● She invests during the set and over texts
Steve Jabba who is a legend in the Pick Up Artist world calls this “The Secret Society”.
Over the texting it’s similar. That is the secret language they speak.
For e.g a girl says “I’m looking for a boyfriend” decoded means ‘I’m looking for trust and connection’.
I could go on at length with more e.g’s.
The answer to all your problems with women is to practice and nail the ‘London Front Stop’.
The Tom Torero version works the best. You wheel around the girl slowly from a distance. Abit like a boomarang slowly spinning into the front position of the girl.
Anyways give it a go. Good luck 😊
Date Request Ping Text
From Torero’s Street Hustle book.
If it helps 😊
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