Tag: The Mystery Method
Comfort time is King
I just wanted to write a post about a few things in particular. These things have been proven in my eyes with a particular girl that I have been dating from Daygame.
1. As written by Chris Odom in the book ‘Revelations’. He says on a date you want to be outcome independent and just see were things go naturally.
I think this inner game mindset is very, very powerful because it allows the girl to feel comfortable with you and, try and make a connection.
The Mystery Method spoke about 7 hours being the average but to be fair its more like 14 on average.
Contrary to public opinion you can trade your way out of the friendzone if you get put in there. I have done this before.
I noticed that there has always been this big debate about direct vs indirect. I think most guys are focused on the smaller picture.
The bigger picture is more important. Actually its fundamental to female biology. That is a women needs to feel comfortable with you to sleep with you.
Most guys think with their dick and, don’t see it from her point of view or natures point of view.
If guys just adhered to minimum 2+ dates before they started escalating then I think his results would go up.
This whole idea about ‘what do I say’ is also missing the point. If a girl is not interested in sleeping with you then she will NOT shit test you.
Every girl has her timeline when it comes to feeling comfortable with you.
Think of the girl. Put the girl first. Yes thats right put her front and centre first before yourself. She will think ‘fuck this guy is not such a wierd cunt after all’. She’ll probably even sleep with you at some point.
Whether it takes 2 dates or 10. Does it matter. As long as she’s still hanging around with you. She thinks your a cool guy.
Cool guys get laid. Wankers don’t.
Just my thoughts.
Date 3 w / Indonesian girl
This is my third date with a 26 Indonesian girl. She definitely fits the category of YHT.
Did a side stop on her in the china town food court mall area.
It was towards the end of the day on Saturday 5:30 ish.
She lit up like a christmas tree to my Daygame skill set.
First date did the usual stuff. No proximity. No hand hold.
Date two touched her ankle sock as we sat in the library. She recoiled slightly.
Date three went to the beach and fed the seagulls. Proximity was on. Hand hold was on. From there she allowed me to kino her over the course of the day and night. Almost got the kiss. Eyes kept looking away after eye contact. Not at my lips.
Did all the verbal escalation stuff. She responded well to it on date 3.
Big lesson learnt from this girl;
“The game is played in comfort” The Mystery Method.
Being sociable is more important then being sexual. Being sexual comes second.
Always hold the frame. Avoid leaning in at all times. She will test. But let her close the proximity. She will do this slowly over time and after some sufficient testing.
Each girl has their own level of comfort time before they start to trust you.
The average being 2 to 3 dates if not an SDL.
Maybe upto 4 to 5 for some other types of girls.
I hope my experience helps you.
Biggest lesson to take away. Keep jumping in front of those girls with ‘The London Front Stop’.
This post is about comfort time and the love bubble.
On the back end dating I think women are attracted to romance or aka the love bubble. Most guys cant give that. Most guys can only give cock or provider stuff.
I notice girls crave the movie moment on a date. Bounce lead bounce lead. Test proximity. Kiss.
They are all movie moments.
The other thing I noticed on the back end is being as socially normal as possible.
Women love socially normal guys. The more you do social stuff with her and the less you try sexual stuff with her it builds the anticipation of sex occuring at some point in the future.
Women love this feeling.
You dont seek an outcome and her love juices bubble while you reframe from sexual overtones. Hence the anticipation going up in her mind.
Women are natural at the feeling of sex. Its automatic. So I advocate doing less. Matter of fact do nothing. Let her heat up in her love juices. She’s automatically doing it for you.
All you have to do is walk around with her and do shit. Wait for the proxy close and hold her hand.
No proximity. No hand hold.
Means no physicality from her. Its never gonna happen. Sex that is. She doesnt see you as sexually attractive. Let her go. Next!!!
if she allows proximity then hand hold will occur automatically. Then kiss close. Your on your way 😉
The trick is to walk her around like a puppy dog.
Rack up time in comfort.
The average being 7 hours according to The Mystery Method.
The Big Country
Watched this movie the other night. Was made back in 1958. Was an epic movie. All the attraction switches and, social sexual hierarchy stuff was in it.
Reminded me of the 5 attraction switches in the Mystery Method.
1. Leader of Men
2. Protector of loved ones
3. Ability to emote freely
4. Risk taking
These are the 5 main attraction switches in women when it comes to being attracted to a guy.
That movie sumed it up in a nutshell. Great movie. Made well before PC was invented.
Made me think that the ‘London Front Stop’ and, the ‘London Daygame Model’ has at least 3 attraction switches triggered in the women. Maybe you can guess which ones they are?
Thank god for Yad, Krauser, Torero and, Jabba. My favourite Daygamers.
The Instant Date that almost resulted in a Kiss Close.
These are my thoughts on Mode One and, Pickup.
I think most women’s threshold for “comfort” sit somewhere in the middle.
To paraphrase Steve Jabba “Every womens comfort level is different. Some need more comfort, some need less. Some don’t need any comfort at all and, will just fuck”.
The Mystery Method writes “To begin with Seduction first is Fools mate”.
I think only a tiny number of girls are “Yes girls” which Mode One would work on. Even then they are gonna want some comfort afterwards and, would probarly ghost you once you go down a gear to comfort building.
All the girls I fucked on the first or second date ended up ghosting me afterwards.
I think it’s because of “Buyers Remorse”.
The pro’s and, con’s of both sides of the coin?
Overt direct Mode one communication;
Pros = Filters out Time Wasters. Filters for Yes girls.
Cons = Buyers Remorse. She wriggles of the hook before you’ve fucked her, a “Maybe girl” that is.
Covert Indirect Direct communication;
Pros = Comfort building, ongoing sex, socially acceptable.
Cons = Waste time on dates to nowhere with Timewaster types.
Ross Jeffries said “You burst the sexual tension bubble when you go overt”.
He said “women are attracted to sexual tension”. “Women are attracted to the anticipation of getting laid”.
My thoughts are this;
We are talking about biology and, millions of years of human evolution.
As The Mystery Method book states;
Back when we were cave men. The women wants to know that if she gets knocked up by you. That cave man you with a big stick will hang around to protect her and, the bun in her oven from the saba tooth tiger.
She doesn’t know it to be sure, she just feels it. Buyers remorse. It’s hard wired into her hind brain. Millions of years of evolution.
That’s why Tom Torero said “The crem dela crem of pickup is somewhere between indirect and, direct language”.
Indirect, Direct. Or it should be refered to as Direct, Indirect.
That is your Direct with your eyes, subcommunication and, touch. Your Indirect with your verbals.
Your On with your subcommunication and, physical. Your Off with your words.
If you have to be On verbally then you can use innuendo or NLP.
My conclusion is that a Venesian artist should always practice “Solid game”.
Solid game is hard. Always consistently work on your value and, open. Do the numbers. It will make you better at your set and, reading the women. Numbers overcomes all.
On value, hit the gym loose the weight. Keep it off. Stop drinking.
Could be your next date?!
What I’ve noticed since I started ‘game’ and, what means more to the girl then sex is ‘pair bonding’ and, wanting ‘sex’ less then the girl.
Now I know some of you reading this are gonna be like ‘your talking shite’ and, that ‘you gotta strike while the iron is hot etc etc da di da…di da?!’.
The fact of the matter, through my own experience of what I have seen and done is that ‘Daygame’ gives you an introduction and, connection to the girl but ultimately it’s ‘time spent in comfort’ that has the greatest impact.
‘Pair Bonding’ and, kino’ing at the same time ‘on’ and, ‘off’ are by far the 2 most powerful things in courting a women to the bedroom.
Of course you still have to play ‘the game’.
Lead, lead, lead. ‘Bounce’, move the girl, don’t be static in one spot for to long.
Do shit with the girl. What I mean is not trying to get laid but doing activities together.
Keep leading her to different activities.
I noticed through this process ‘Pair Bonding’ is created and, the women starts to cling to you’.
The second point is wanting to ‘fuck her’ less then her wanting to fuck you.
The reasoning behind this logic is that I noticed girls get turned off if your constantly ‘pulling’.
Women are more attracted to the ‘push’.
That means that you’ve gotta want it less then her.
Now I put a caveat to that. You can still have a sexual interest in her…. but less then her.
The end result is that you end up racking up “comfort time” as The Mystery Method says.
Now, the final step is to ‘risk’ loosing it all.
You have to now risk loosing the girl altogether by “Pulling the trigger” pua term.
But the point is this:
It’s “Pair bonding” and, “wanting it less then her” is were great strides are made in the courting process of dating.
Just my thoughts.
Tomorrow I have a Date 1 lined up with an American HB8.
Street stop: Hand was floppy, proximity was allowed and, eyes were on.
She also invested.
Over the texting, she invested alot and, asked me out for a date. Don’t know if the polarity is fucked or not. Will find out on the date as I’m gonna run seduction only.
Why you ask seduction only….!!!
Why not deep connection and, comfort like what’s written in The Mystery Method.
Mystery’s 7 hour rule on comfort covers about 2 dates, maybe 3.
Like cricket, your bowling and, batting according to the weather conditions. In particular the pitch.
Let me give the analogy first and, then the Daygame theory.
In cricket if the pitch is wet then the ball will bounce of the surface in all soughts of wild directions. Hence making it hard for the batsman to score runs and, stay in.
This makes it easier for the bowler to get the batsman out and, stop runs from being scored.
Of course if the opposite weather conditions are true then the dry pitch suits the batsman and, not the bowler.
In Daygame there’s this concept of R/K theory. K meaning the girl doesn’t root outside a monogamous relationship.
R meaning she does.
I think this girl is a yes girl. I think she’s R.
Like Tom Torero says in his book Street Hustle “You got to burn your boats mission”.
He means fearless, relentless escalation. As the PUA Sixty Years of Challenge wrote.
I’ll let you know how I go. That is whether I crash and, burn or, I hit a home run?!
The Mystery Method
I had a 4 – 5 hour 1st date the other night.
I come to realise the importance of ‘comfort building’ while running physical compliance tests.
The physical compliance tests are to spike things up and, to see where you are in set.
The Mystery Method book refers to this concept as “the game is played in comfort”.
Meaning that you need to spend between 4 to 10 hours of time on building comfort. The average being 7 hours.
The seduction stage cannot begin until the comfort stage has finished and, you have built enough comfort.
The M3 sequencing model is as such;
1.Attraction 2.Comfort 3.Seduction
The model based on science is linear and, any attempts to do them out of sequence will result in the following;
1.Attraction 3.Seduction =Buyers remorse
1.Attraction 2.Comfort =Friendzone
2.Comfort 3.Seduction =Bitch shield
Which brings me to the conclusion that mode one is limited because it’s foolsmate.
Unless mode 1 is done after enough comfort has been built and, would form part of seduction.
Thoughts on the date?…..she was fucking ‘hot to trot’ 😉
Very powerful stuff.